Tarok D

On pourrait le croire rustre mais non !
Régis peut etre sensible à la poesie, surtout si elle lui est sussurée dans le creux de l'oreille !

Mais il me semble que cette phrase est dans la signature de Absoalishah !
Faut il en déduire que Régis et Absoalishah ????!!...!!!!

il veut faire du noir avec tarok
ohlaa !!
j'ai du loupé un épisode

c un peux brouillon dans mon cerveau alors si vous pourriez m'expliquer se qu'il veux faire avec Tarok a part des "beaux produits"

faut pas paniquer, c'est juste une bête question

Mohammed a dit qu'il a acheté aussi un poulain de Tarok, un noir-bay. Donc se poulain existe déjà Donc moi je me demande avec quelle ligne on a croisé Tarok pour avoir ce poulain presque noir.

aaah !!
ok !!
merci, j'y vois un peux plus claire

de rien

A Mr Mohammed,
Tarok est-il disponible pour la monte publique?
Si oui, auriez- vous la gentillesse d' envoyer votre adresse e-mail pour que je puisse prendre contact avec vous afin de prendre deux saillies de Tarok pour 2007.
En vous remerciant.

J'ai vu TAROK en vrai et il n'a rien à voir avec les dernières photos reprises ci-dessus. Sa tête est par contre exactement la même que sur les deux photos de tête qui se trouvent je pense, à la page une.
Sa conformation est super et sa tête est d'un charisme!
Ses yeux sont aussi extrêmement grand.
"Congratulation" à ses nouveaux proprios.
Nathalie

Ah, les $$$!!! J'aime bien le vert finalement même s'il est noir par derrière!

Pas de conclusion hâtive, ami : ya des matins comme ça où je suis d'humeur à la déconne!

Cette phrase finalement sent un peu trop la bibliothèque rose pour moi!

Bon week-end.

AAhlalaaaa !!!

Mr Mohammed !!!!!!!!

comme je ne peut le voir en vraie :
des photos !!! des photos !!! des photos.... !!!

$$$ a écrit:

On pourrait le croire rustre mais non !
Régis peut etre sensible à la poesie, surtout si elle lui est sussurée dans le creux de l'oreille !

Mais il me semble que cette phrase est dans la signature de Absoalishah !
Faut il en déduire que Régis et Absoalishah ????!!...!!!!

Je vous remercie de préciser qu'elle est de moi j'y tient à cette jolie phrase ! Au fait merci Régis pour la bibliothèque rose lol

IL ME SEMBLE QUE TARKOK D SAILLISSE EN MAJORITE DU BEY, DU BLACK BEY OU DU NOIR ET EN PLUS SANS MARQUES.
IL YA 2 OU 3 ANS ON A VU UNE TRES BELLE POULICHE BLACK BEY PAR TAROK D AVEC UNE JUMENT GRISE!
SI JE ME SOUVIENS BIEN, LA JUMENT ETAIT PAR PEGAZ, ETALON POLONAIS GRIS DE CHEZ JADEM ARABIAN.
JE PENSE QUE TAROK D A AUSSI DONNE UNE POULICHE NOIRE MAIS SUR UNE JUMENT NOIRE, CE QUI EST PLUS PREVISIBLE.
QUELQU'UN PEUT-IL ECLAIRER MA LANTERNE, COMMENT UN ETALON GRIS (AUX DERNIERES NOUVELLES TAROK D SERAIT ACTUELLEMENT PRESQUE BLANC TRUITE), PEUT-IL DONNER UN FOAL "BLACK BEY" AVEC UNE JUMENT GRISE (BLANCHE AUSSI EN FAIT)?
MAIS CELA DIT, C'EST PAS VRAIMENT LA ROBE QUI COMPTE C'EST PLUTOT LA CONFORMATION NON?
BIEN SUR SI LES PRODUITS SONT SUPERS ET EN PLUS BEY, BLACK BEY OU NOIR, FAUT PAS PASSER A COTE.
QUELQU'UN PEUT-IL AUSSI ME DIRE QUEL AGE A CET ETALON?
MERCI

Tarok est né en 1996.

quesque vous appelez "black bey"
je connais noir ou bai, mais black bey ?

Black bay, c'est bai très foncé, noir pangaré

*mare, Polish-Russian bloodlines.

*Yes TAROK will be available for public breeding (2007).

*Contact: tarokpartnership@hotmail.com

OK !
merci !
en faite cela correspond au baie brun foncé dans nos "Selle Français"

Dear Mohammed Ben Jelloun,

I note that you bought Tarok D in partnership and are now claiming that he is a son of Padrons Psyche.

This rumour has been made in the past. To put the rumour to an end, new DNA tests where made and published on a whole page in the belgian studbook magazine. The tests, conducted in the universitary laboratory of Merelbeke - Gent were absolutly sure : Tarok D can NOT be a son of Padrons Psyche.

Mind you, Gent has both the DNA samples of Padrons Psyche (which once stood in Belgium) and Padrons Kadar. As far as I know, no other institute in the world has the DNA of both stallions (which are half-brothers) available.

By stating that Tarok D is a son of Padrons Psyche (which might sell better), you are putting a burden on all owners of Tarok D offspring.

I immediatly think about a well-known son of him, Ra Moon Ibn Tarok D, who sired numerous offspring. By your statements, his pedigree and that of his offspring is put in doubt, hence less marketable.

Therefor please be careful with your statements, as, until the papers are not changed, can give damage to owners with offspring. I am sure they will not hesitate with damage claims, as they have already been through it in the past !

Sigrid Volders

to Mr Sigrid Volbers,

As far as we know, you are NOT the owner of an offspring out of the
stallion TAROK, so your agressivity is very suspicious but of course if you wrote to protect some of your friends interests,....

You can be sure the results of Tarok's DNA tests will not make his offsprings less marketable.
Of course if you feel bad about the truth, you can always
ask for "damage claim" to Tarok's breeder, Mr Dardennes, the President of the Belgian Studbook for many years and also to Mrs Lacoste Nancy (MB Arabian in Belgium), who is actually the owner of Padrons Kadar and who was working together with Mrs Beata Labruyere (MB Arabians) when they inseminated Kochia D (Tarok's mother) in 1996.

You are wrong, Padrons Psyche was NOT standing in Belgium, frozen semence was available in Belgium in 1995, the year Kochia D was inseminated.

It is stupid to say, it is only in Belgium they have both DNA, (Padrons Psyche and Padrons Kadar).
Padrons Psyche and Padrons Kadar were both born in the U.S.A.,
and you try to let people believe, Padrons Kadar was exported to Belgium,
to MB Arabians, without any paper or DNA tests were done!

Again, you are wrong, what was published in the Baps news, WAS NOT
AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT FROM THE LABO IN MERELBEKE.
This was published by Mrs Lacoste Nancy, who tried to lease TAROK D
in this time.
For you information, TAROK D, leasing to Mrs Lacoste didn't went true because Mrs Lacoste signed the lease documents herself, but after, tryed to put put MB Arabian's name on TAROK 's pedigree, for leasing and this was NOT accepted by Mrs Mertens (Tarok's owner, 2 years ago) or by the Belgian Studbook.


It is Mrs Lacoste who tried to send blood to Merelbeke in order to obtain satisfaction about TAROK''s father.
For your information, it is only the owner of a horse who can ask for
blood tests and what Mrs Lacoste did was again trying to cheet.

Nobody know witch horse blood, Mrs Lacoste Nancy gave away.

Tank you.

Mr. Mohammed, are you married to "miss" Mertens?????? It's like she is talking here, same words, strange, and you bought Tarok from Mertens and not from Van Belle, don't pretend you don't know!!

Mertens played a fool here in Belgium, she cheated a lot of people, I don't think that she must come here in public

Mertens didn't deserve a horse like Tarok, he was honest, that's the last thing you can tell about Mertens

This was just al little warm-up, this evening the whole story and truth about Tarok, greetings from Belgium.

Dear Mohammed Ben Jelloun,

I notice you are speaking for different people who have not yet reveiled themselfs.

As Mrs MERTENS might have informed you, my intervention on this forum is made as a barrister at the Court of Appeal of Brussel, acting for my clients.

I notice that you take over the heavily contested unilateral misinformation of Mrs MERTENS.

I have to inform you that a claim was made to Mrs VAN BELLE (mother of Mrs MERTENS) and Mrs MERTENS indirectly concerning the leasing, papers and breeding book of Tarok D.

Mrs VAN BELLE has not protested the claim in due time, which thus has become valid.

Now that Mrs VAN BELLE and Mrs MERTENS can no longer give this misinformation, it is rather strange to - all of a sudden- see a person on this forum, with the name of Mohammed Ben Jelloun, which hasn't identified himself yet.

You might be Mrs VAN BELLE or Mrs MERTENS under a hidden name.

I therefor urge you to give us your full details.

Last, concerning Padrons Psyche : Padrons Psyche was shipped and flown over to Belgium in 1995, as you are well known of, to promote him for further use of his frozen semen.

Sigrid Volders
sigrid.volders@pandora.be
(acting with a real business e-mail, not with a anonymous hotmail adress)

To Mr Volders,

Our "full details" are available up on page 3 or 4.
And you never contacted us.

I see that as MRS LACOSTE's LAWYER, you are not afraid of lying.
But this is the job of a lawyer of course!

We are not Mrs Mertens and as far as we know Mrs Van Belle is Not
Mrs Mertens mother.
We didn't bought TAROK D from Mrs Mertens,
and as you know, this can easily be proved on Tarok's pedigree.
As you know, the name of the owner are on it.

Mrs Mertens is not the only person who was concerned about TAROK 's
real paternity, in the past.
As you know, in the past, a claim was done by Mr Misson against Mr Dardennes the President of the studbook of Belgium.
This claim was done at the police and the Court of Justice about TAROK FALSE PATERNITY.

In Europe and in the U.S.A., there are also some people who are really involved. But this seems not to be your problem, your are more concerned about Mrs Mertens.
Does she know TO MUCH ABOUT THE CASE OR ABOUT YOUR CLIENT MABY? What are you so afraid of?

But of course you don't know about this!
It is maby also about jalousy for Mrs Mertens in particular, because it seems like this to us.
Or maby your client cannot accept Mrs Mertens was TAROK's owner, for many years, and she was NOT.
IT is you who wrote, "Mrs Mertens DID NOT DESERVED A HORSE LIKE TAROK".

Mrs Mertens indeed had problems in Belgium, but as far as we know,
only with your client, Mrs Lacoste (MB arabians), but she is not the only
one who had "problems" in the past with the owners of MB Arabians.
About MB, where is MRS BEATA LABRUYERE NOW?

Mrs Mertens had a very goog reputation all over Europe and even over here.
But the most important is not to speak about people disputes, BUT THE
SUBJECT IS THE SEARCH FOR TAROK 's real father.
But of course this interess your client, for sure less than the rest.

For your information, we sent a mail to Mrs Mertens Yesterday about all this and she contacted Mr Dardennes, the President of the Belgian studbook and the breeder of Tarok D.
It seems Mr Dardennes don't know nothing about the case and don't even
remember he spoke about TAROK's DNA results during a public meeting of the Belgian studbook.
She also contacted Mr Denoo, from the official labo for DNA search, for
pure bred arabians, in Belgium.
Dr Denoo, NEVER TESTED THE DNA OF TAROK D !!!
THERE WAS NEVER DNA TEST DONE FOR TAROK IN BELGIUM.
THIS IS VERY SUSPICIOUS BECAUSE TAROK HAS A BELGIAN PEDIGREE.

Dr Denoo says he never delivered a DNA certificate for Tarok D in the past or a year or two ago, in order to let it published!

We invite every body to call DR Denoo.........

It now very clear that what you wrote yesterday about " OFFICIAL PUBLICATION ABOUT PADRONS KADAR AS FATHER OF TAROK (you
even wrote that the paternity of PADRONS PSYCHE WAS OFFICIALY EXCLUDED"!
Please let us also advice YOU, to be very carefull in what you write, without any prove.

BUT OF COURSE IF YOU HAVE SOME "REAL" OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS, WE INVITE YOU TO SHARE THEM WITH US AND WITH ALL TAROK's FRIENDS,
ON THE NET.
Of course, all documents you are speaking about, and we are sure you will soon send us, will be carrefully analyse for autenticity.

HAVE A NICE DAY!

Juste un autre "honest guest" qui donne son avis.


Je confirme, pur mensonge, pur mensonge et encore pur mensonge.
Mademoiselle Volders, il faudra revoir la source de vos informations avant
de vouloir les faire gober à tout le monde.
Padron's psyche n'a jamais mis les pieds dans un haras en Europe.
Sa semence congelée a été disponible pour le Benelux, en 1995, chez Jadem Arabian en Belgique.
Pour rappel Tarok "d" est né en 1996, en Belgique.
A moins que la propriétaire de Padron's psyche, Mme North, de North Arabian aux U.S.A., ne sache pas ce qu'elle a fait de son cheval, rien que
pour vous faire plaisir.
j'invite tout le monde à aller voir sur le web de North Arabian. Madame North, vient juste d'y écrire ceci:
"Padrons Psyche is now an ECAHO 3 STAR STALLION, having earned his points just by the success of his get.
He is the only ECAHO 3 star stallion who NEVER STOOD at stud in Europe."
Traduction:
"Padrons Psyche est maintenant un étalon 3 ÉTOILES POUR L'ECAHO,
juste en ayant mérité ses points par les succès de ses produits.
Il est le seul étalon 3 étoiles ECAHO, qui n'a JAMAIS ETE STATIONNE
EN EUROPE dans un haras."

HA, HA, HA,
cela devient très amusant tout cela.

Mr Mohammed Ben Jelloun,

No, you haven't identified yourself. A hotmail adress is no mean of identification.

I have no intention to engage a further discussion with you on a public forum about a matter of law.

I have advised my clients to fill in a complaint with the Juge d'Instruction.

Furthermore, I notice a personal attack in your writings, which I find personally offending.

I quote :

"IT is you who wrote, "Mrs Mertens DID NOT DESERVED A HORSE LIKE TAROK".

I have never made this kind of statement. Please do not put such words in my mouth.

Yours sincerly,

Sigrid Volders

[url]On a personal note :[/url]

Padrons Psyche was imported in Belgium for the occasion of the European Championships in Moorsele. It was a "special presentation"

While he was not standing at stud in Belgium, (correct ! - only frozen semen was available ) this does not neceserally imply that his DNA was not tested.

"Mrs Mertens DID NOT DESERVED A HORSE LIKE TAROK".

c'est "an hones" qui écrit cette phrase !

An-hones....
An-hones...

C'est pas celle qui a lancé l'an-honisme?!!!

Bref, je ne vois pas pourquoi je parle de ça. De toute façon tout le monde s'en branle!