El Sharluke (amboseli * senadiha)

Bonjour,

Tout est dans le titre, après avoir vu une de ses filles sur un site internet, je recherche des infos, photos de cet étalon 100 % crabbet de lignée Kuhaylan el Krush.
Merci

petite correction, de lignée Ajuz rodan, c'est sa fille qui est de ligne Krush : Marbon Martini

Dear friends.

Hope it is OK that I write in english, I don´t understand french (sorry ) but I am the owner of 3 El Sharluke offsprings.

I am writing because I have found that my web-page are mentioned here and there.

I am a devoted crabbet owner / breeder, and I welcome you to visit my my web-site to have a look at the pics there.They are not profession ones but show you the horses as they are.

gu-ku-vi.dk

Perhaps it is not aloud to give web-site adresses, but I have nothing for sale and no stud services at the moment, only want to be in contact to people with the same passion for crabbets as I.


These days my mare Silver Zara Saint, her mother are out of a mare from the Romac Stud, are by the vets for insimination with semen from the Austaraien stallion, Safari, and I do hope to have succes with it.

I am expecting a new stallion from UK, out of Astarahfah and Grecian Idyll, looking foreward to have him in beginning of May.

Hope you don´t mind me stepping in, and I am really sorry that I am not able to read what you are talking about.

Kind Regards Gunni.

welcome on this forum ! it is a very nice place to speak about arabian horses and you can put your link , photos and talk about what you want ! some are good in english and we are very happy to have some one from Danemark ! looking forward to see your horses !

Hello Gunni,

Welcome on this forum.

A few years ago, I knew anything about crabbet. Then, I purchase a mare from Belgium and a few horses of her pedigree are crabbet. So I look after informations between other one by the web. It's just like that I found your website and I fell under the spell of your mare Marbon Martini. She is gorgeous ! It's the first crabbet I see that is bay and not chesnust or grey...and for kuhaylan strain. Most of crabbet that I see on the web are for Hamdani Simriyah strain.

So, for my information and the pleasure to know more about crabbet I look after information and pictures about the sire of your mare and his offsprings.

Romac stud is sometimes on this forum as well as some french people which are breeding crabbet.

Could you tell more us about Safari ? Astarahfah and Grecian Idyll ? This one is well a colt of Caroline sussex's stallion ? I believe he's in Belgium .

I enjoy for your response and I hope we begin a long debate about crabbet. I hope too we could interest more people.

Best regards.

le site de Gunni
http://www.gu-ku-vi.dk/index.htm

moi aussi j'ai craqué sur le crabbet bai, rare par chez nous
mais fréquent sur les souches australiennes et américaines
quelqu'un peut-il expliquer celà, quelle lignée à débuté le bai ?

Sulleimann étalon Crabbet en France
http://sulleimann.site.voila.fr

Thank you so much for your warm welcome to me. About Martini , she is dark liverchestnut, not brown, and she is in fact crabbet/old english as she is "only"99,32% crabbet, rest old english.

Many crabbets also go back to Rodania and Dajania, but it happens so that the Binley stud is those who had exported most of them all, and they have the lines of Hamdini Simri.

The Dafina El Krush is only represented in the pure crabbets by the two mares that I have and one in UK who are not breeding. If this mares don´t get any fillys the line are gone forever, in the pure crabbet on the female line.

The Romac Stud I mentioned is the one in UK owned by Daphne Cockegde, that bred the colt out of Grecian Idyll, belonging to Peggy, hes pics are in the other tread and he is such a beauty, I envy her a bit.

The mare Astarafa is bred by Geoff Plaister an old breeder of crabbets.

Safari is a lovely stallion, that I have videos of, he is a very good horse who has done well in endurance, as well as hes father and siblings.It is my last chance to have a foal out of him in this way as the semen was treated wrong from the station, so it is not that good, but we give it try, cross our fingers and hope.
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el nefous, I am so soryy but I don´t understand what you are writing, but perhaps ESSMB will have the troubles to translate it?

Regards Gunni.

Hello Gunni, I am very happy to read you on the forum. Romac stud in Luxembourg a lady is who bought a son of Romac from Daphne Cocksedge, it's a little damage that it carries the same name.
Kind regards
Peggy

Welcome Gunni,
Some of your horses are simply georgous !
Just a question, not an attack in anyway, but how do you manage your SCID carrier horses? I saw some of them have reproduced...
I thought of that reading the AHW article on the subject written by Emma Maxwell.

Good luck in perpetuating the old crabbet blood today!

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Thanks for your clear answer,
all the best for the future!

Hi Gukuvi !

If I understand that you use a scid carrier horse and I respect your choice , I'm very surprised and don't understand you use a carrier stallion with both carrier mares !!! I'm very angry about ! I think that there is enough risks to use a carrier one so to use sire and dam... ! do you think about the future of these horses before to "take the risk" so easily ? Breeding mainly means : health, live, avoid illness... and after beauty...
Sorry, can't agree this way of "breeding"... for me it's a nonsense !!
amarie

Thank you, it is very easy to make people angry, but at least I keep the problems in my own house and don´t get others in trouble.

That is the prize I have to pay for being honest about it.That people don´t understand.

There is only one purebreed crabbetstallion in Denmark, some in France , but one of them are not tested, and the other was not what I really want.

Sending the mares to UK is more than I can afford, and besides all that the horses fit very well together except for the scid.

In these five years I have the crabbets I have only have four foals out of five mares, and this year none is on the way either. I don´t make foals just to make them, enough breeders of that, there is a plan in my head what I want to end up with.

Thank to Diane Ellis in UK I am now on the way, as she has give me permission to have her stallion by me for breeding, and have borrowed me her mare Melissa to help me continure.

I can asure you it was 11 awfull months expecting these foals and as I said they where tested right from the beginning, so they don´t have to suffer if they get sick and no cure was avaible.

The nonsense is in my stable a lovely filly that I expect a lot of, and if Martinis foal had been a filly she would have stayed here to.

I am now 67 years old, and don´t have plenty of time to wait, and the horses are not young either.

I had regret so offen that I told about the scid, I could just have shut my mouth, and nobody had known what was going on.

On the other hand people start testing there horses, because breeding to untested is just as risky as to do it with those who are tested.

This is my oppinnion, and the next foals coming here is scidclear, at least in 3 cases and perhaps a carrier, who knows?.

I though it was Crabbet the tread was about, and I just answer a question about how I had handled that bad situation I was brought to.

I also had to tell that those people who sell me the horses had no idea of the scid, and in fact one of them had been bred wtihout knowing carrier to carrier.Is that better?

Enough said about it.

KR Gunni.

Hello Gunni,

I come back about the crabbet. I have a full of questions.

About Martini, wich(es) horse(s) in her pedigree is(are) not 100 % crabbet ? Could you, or Peggy , as you prefer, tell us more about Binley stud and other "big" breedings of crabbet today. I don't know and I 'm just reading the book "Crabbet arabian stud : its history and influence". So I begin being familiarized with the names "Lady Anne Blunt, her husband and daughter Lady Wentworth, crabbet park in England, Sheyk Obeyd in Egypt etc but that's all.

Perhaps could you make a small descriptionof them : where the breed is located, since when breeding crabbet, man horses with pictures, performance, strain,.....What do you think about this idea?

For example to come back to El sharluke : Where is he ? .......and safari ? Any how I 'll cross my fingers for you and hope you 'll have this foal. I have a friend breeder and I understand this.

For El nefous, she has a crabbet stallion Sulleimann (97, 24 %) in France and she says that she likes too brown (dark liverchesnut) crabbet and this color would be more frequent in australian and american horses. Her question : which strain is at the origin of this ?

Best regards
Magali

Think we have to take it over a couple of evenings I have some horses to do also.
Here is Martinis pedigree, if you go down and click on Furzey Amanda , you will find Algol behind her. He is the reason that she is not 100%. Almost all crabbet/old english is so because of him, he was bred by the Prince of Wales at the same time as crabbet was on the market.

Only behind Dargee, Algol is aloud in the pure crabbets as Dargee was bought to crabbet and was a breeding stallion there.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/marbon+martini

A little education finding the tailfemale is ; if you take the pale red in the buttom of the pedigree in Martinis case Fiona, clic on it and do the same on the next page you will find Dafina there, she is the tailfemale, and so you can do with all arabians.

About Martinis colour it is so rare, it is not bay it is a red gen but so dark almost black. I haven´t seen any other pics with a horse of her colour except her mother. There are now two bay crabbets in UK a stallion by Llian Arabians and a mare out of Safari imported by Anne Brown Gadebrook stud.

El Sharluke do not longer live, he died I think it most two years ago, he was a relative small horse, dark liverchestnut with four white socks and a very refined head.He was mostly used by Diane Ellis in her stud , also make some lovely sportsponies.

Safari goes back to Rodania as so many crabbets does.

It will be all for now, have to go to the horses.

KR Gunni.

Hi Gunni !

I'm 59 !! the team of the grandma' !!
I appreciate very much your honesty but I can't say that I'm ok if I'm not ! As I told you, to my opinion I'm ok for the breeding but not for the babies which have a serious risk to dead and for their future life !
I would prefer not to bred and I'm as you are no time to lose...
I didn't want to hurt you ! sorry !
amarie

Fine with me, no problem.

Gunni.

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I was just trying to se if I could put pics in here.Today GKV Meadley was very surprised that Martini fell down

He is now 11 months old and such a nice colt to deal with in any ways.

KR Gunni.

Hello Gunni,

Yes, I know it will be very very long but so intereting.

Thank you for the detail of Martini's pedigree. This allows me to gain knowledge of the horses crabbet and those who are old english. I had been interested just like that in davenports and I had found very rewarding.

Very nice photography. It isn't easy to be at the good time to "catch" such natural instants.

Best regards

ESSMB unfortunately I don´t have had so much time to write, and I also think I have to be more carefull, what I am telling around the world.If there is anything you want to know that perhaps I am able to tell you about you can e-mail me.

Anyway I want to show you some pics of my 100% colt GKV Meadley taken today.He is scidclear.







Kind Regards Gunni.

Hello Gunni,

I understand very well

That's why I participate not much. So we will meet therefore by e-mail with pleasure.

Anyway, your colt is very lovely ! a beautiful harbour of head with a great class

Best regards